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Malcolm 
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Posted on: May 20 2014,10:33 |
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Help you quit, says Brits.
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Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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TheCatt
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Posted on: May 20 2014,11:19 |
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I dunno, I used the patch to quit successfully at least 3 times.
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TPRJones
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Posted on: May 20 2014,11:38 |
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Indeed. The output is just water vapor and a dash of glycerin for effect. Second hand smoke from an e-cig is cleaner than the air in a major city.
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Jun. 27 2014,10:27 |
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QUOTE Some Senators referred to a website sponsored by blu’s parent company, Lorillard, stating that flavors like “cherry” and “vanilla” make children vulnerable to electronic cigarettes.
As further proof Congress's job is getting reelected instead of doing anything -- booze kills more people than tobacco. Â I don't see any Congressman taking Smirnoff importers to task for ...
QUOTE Smirnoff Fluffed Marshmallow. Marshmallow-flavored vodka, 30% ABV.
Smirnoff Iced Cake. Cake-flavored vodka, 30% ABV.
Smirnoff Kissed Caramel. Caramel-flavored vodka, 30% ABV.
Smirnoff Whipped Cream. Whipped cream-flavored vodka, 30% ABV.
Smirnoff Root Beer Float. Root beer float-flavored vodka, 30% ABV.
Smirnoff Cinna-Sugar Twist cinnamon-infused vodka.
Those are some adult flavours that are clearly not marketed towards children.
Edited by Malcolm on Jun. 27 2014,10:29
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Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Sep. 01 2014,11:17 |
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(Malcolm @ May 20 2014,13:27)
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(TheCatt @ May 20 2014,13:19)
QUOTE I dunno, I used the patch to quit successfully at least 3 times. I'm still trying to figure why the e-ciggies get such backlash given they're cutting down on a fuckload of burned organic matter you'd otherwise be inhaling.
Deceptive article proves Malcolm right.
QUOTE Electronic cigarettes emit chromium — which isn't in regular cigarettes — and four times the amount of nickel as regular cigarettes. The researchers also found other toxic metals in the e-cigarette smoke, like lead and zinc, but the amounts were smaller than those in regular cigarettes.
There were, however, 10 times fewer harmful particles and almost no cancer-causing organic compounds in secondhand e-cigarette smoke, because electronic cigarettes don't burn organic material like traditional cigarettes do.
Emphasis mine. Â Well damn, weird metals. Â Not a fucking thing you can do about that ...
QUOTE He said the metals probably come from electronic cigarettes' cartridges, meaning that better production could reduce them going forward.
Goddamn. Â Someone should really come up with something better. Â It's almost as if there's an industry already in place that sells better hardware than e-cigs, which are like the George Costanzas of vaporizers.
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Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2014,10:48 |
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Teen e-ciggie use overtakes traditional ciggies. And people are still bitching about it.
QUOTE "I worry that the tremendous progress that we've made over the last almost two decades in smoking could be reversed on us by the introduction of e-cigarettes," said University of Michigan professor Lloyd Johnston, who leads the annual Monitoring the Future survey of more than 41,000 students.
QUOTE The CDC reported last week that 10 states permit the sale of e-cigarettes to minors.
That's kind of stupid. Regulate the nicotine liquid, dumb-ass. Fuck the vape pens.
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Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Jul. 10 2015,10:38 |
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States getting ready to fuel the black market e-ciggie market.
QUOTE "The key is to avoid another generation being addicted to nicotine," Indiana Attorney General Greg Zoeller said in an interview.
Actually, Greg, fuck you for changing your shallow, flippity-flopping anti-tobacco stance. The rallying cry used to be around all the toxic shit in the ciggie being inhaled. The nicotine bullshit only came out after the e-ciggies. Go whore yourself out for votes some other way, you fucking tool.
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Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Aug. 19 2015,10:51 |
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E-ciggie critics can eat a dick. Conclusions:
1) they help people quit smoking normal ciggies
2) they have 95% less of the shitty chems normal ciggies have
3) they don't encourage use of normal ciggies
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Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Sep. 10 2015,10:29 |
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Do they?
QUOTE But Anderson says that vapor still contains dangerous chemicals.
Tobacco plus heat (without combustion) produces exactly what dangerous chems? Â Name them. Â Here's a list of the almost 600 chems you avoid when you use a e-cig + tobacco/liquid nicotine.
QUOTE The study funded by the National Cancer Institute found that nearly 40 percent of young people who started using e-cigarettes moved on to regular cigarettes within a year.
Do you know why? Â Because e-ciggies tend to be clunky to use, not manufactured to consistent standards, stigmatized unjustly, and a pain to clean. Â Ciggies are flame and forget. Patches aren't a good substitute, either.
Edited by Malcolm on Sep. 10 2015,10:35
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Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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TPRJones
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Posted on: Sep. 10 2015,10:48 |
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Most of the shortcomings of ecigs are changing pretty quickly. The state of the art is rapidly evolving.
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Malcolm
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It smells fruity, tastes fruity, comes in packaging with colours obviously intended to entice minors, and has quite a bit of intoxicant firepower, commonly leading to ODs on small amounts. Â What is this substance that must be banned for the sake of all children?
Hand sanitizer. Â Curiously, they aren't getting the same sort of heat as liquid nicotine manufacturers.
Edited by Malcolm on Sep. 14 2015,10:40
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Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Jan. 18 2016,11:58 |
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The march of hypocrisy goes on.
Title: Candy-Flavored E-Cigarette Ads Appeal to Young: Study
Second paragraph: QUOTE However, the ads don't increase the overall appeal to kids of either smoking traditional tobacco cigarettes or using e-cigarettes regularly, the researchers reported.
Christ, mislead much?
QUOTE "We know that flavors appeal to kids, and that is what the e-cigarette industry is banking on," Sward said. "Kids like sweet flavors. That is why there are sugar-sweetened cereals. These flavors have always appealed to a kid's palate."
That's what mature drinkers want, more cake in their fucking vodka.
QUOTE "It doesn't get much more blatant," Douglas said. "It's quite clearly targeted at kids."
These must be marketed to middle aged housewives as an alternative to red wine.
Edited by Malcolm on Jan. 18 2016,11:59
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Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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