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Malcolm 
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Posted on: Apr. 24 2013,10:31 |
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And people obviously failed health class.
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TPRJones
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Posted on: Apr. 24 2013,10:59 |
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Yeah, but then someone will do a study and find that the majority of consumers think they are being offered free travel miles with their order and are thus ordering more so they can get that trip to Hawaii.
People will be stupid no matter what you do. The only proper response is to just let them be stupid.
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Leisher
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Posted on: Apr. 24 2013,11:48 |
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Eh, I see the actual logic behind it.
People are lazy and/or dumb, and while you can show them calories, they don't allow themselves to process the data. Even if they weren't lazy and/or stupid, there's that little bit of human nature where we lie to ourselves.
This helps people avoid that lie.
I don't know about "requiring" such things, I mean if you force McDonald's to do it, the 5 star restaurant down the street better be forced to do it too.
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GORDON
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Posted on: Apr. 24 2013,12:10 |
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I would rather see the figures as the number of times I need to jerk off.
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Apr. 24 2013,13:11 |
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There should be an app for this somewhere. Punch in a calorie total and it lists off ways you can burn it off and for how long. If it could somehow do that intelligently (like putting a learning system in there), I think that might take off.
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Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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Leisher
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Posted on: Apr. 24 2013,16:53 |
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You might be joking, but I'll bet you make a mint if you design something like that.
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Apr. 24 2013,17:27 |
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I was sort of serious when I wrote that. Problem is I'm not an app programmer, but that might be a gimmick worth checking out. Only going to get more "smart" and mobile devices as time goes on. Shit, I already look at desktops today the same way I looked at mainframes twenty years ago.
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Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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Leisher
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Posted on: Apr. 24 2013,18:44 |
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I think desktops will have more longevity than we think. Maybe not in their current form, but there will still be a home based something.
Laptops, however, are dead.
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TheCatt
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Posted on: Apr. 25 2013,04:14 |
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Wut Wut?
Laptops rule. They're so powerful now that I don't bother with desktops.
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I do wonder how many children under the age of 25 are buying laptops. They will all want the latest status device that they can put in their pocket and show off at the douchebag coffee shop.
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TheCatt
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Posted on: Apr. 25 2013,06:06 |
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Well, for me, my laptop = $ cuz I cannot do my job without it. But yeah, for those who just consume, phones sure do a lot these days.
Edited by TheCatt on Apr. 25 2013,06:06
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Leisher
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Posted on: Apr. 25 2013,06:13 |
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Desktops are the most powerful PCs period.
Laptops can be powerful, but not as powerful as the desktop. They're also more expensive, hard to upgrade, and degrade faster.
Desktops are the tool of choice for any serious gamer or people running software that needs balls.
Laptops have always been around because of their portability, however tablets have replaced that in a big way.
Anyway, the main reason I am declaring laptops to be dead is because of their cost, size, and weight when compared to the new breed of mobile computing like the Surface.
We've been running the W8 Pro version of the Surface here for months now, and I'm currently of the mindset that our company will never buy another laptop. I'm not kidding.
The Surface is a tablet that runs as a full PC, and when you add the snap on keyboard, it's a fully functioning laptop, just smaller and lighter.
We already have sales people who have turned in their laptops and have been using the Surface and love it.
We've got 8 in the field right now, and I have yet to hear a single negative thing about them. Hell, even W8 has avoided criticism (from my group) because of how it runs as a tablet OS. (It still doesn't belong on desktops or laptops.)
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TPRJones
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Posted on: Apr. 25 2013,06:33 |
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My company is just starting to consider looking into upgrading from Windows XP to Windows 7.
I think it'll be awhile before they change their "no tablets" policy.
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TheCatt
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Posted on: Apr. 25 2013,07:23 |
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(Leisher @ Apr. 25 2013,09:13)
QUOTE Desktops are the most powerful PCs period.
Laptops can be powerful, but not as powerful as the desktop. They're also more expensive, hard to upgrade, and degrade faster.
Desktops are the tool of choice for any serious gamer or people running software that needs balls.
I use a Dell M6700. 32GB of RAM, 2x500GB SSD + 750GB Sata drive.
Are desktops more powerful for the same amount of money? Sure.
But I can't take a desktop anywhere. I can't take it to meetings, or to clients, or on planes, or anywhere. It's stuck in one place. That makes it nearly worthless to me.
I develop really complex, hardcore software that powers large utilities' metering systems. Thousands of transactions per second, TB upon TB of data, and lots of analysis and reporting, etc. And the laptop is awesome for it.
Tablets are the new laptop.
Laptops are the new desktops.
Desktops are dinosaurs.
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Apr. 25 2013,07:30 |
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Desktops are going to be used like servers back in the old days. Gamers and image-heavy processing will always want desktops, though. High-end vid card setups require more separate hardware, requires a bigger footprint. Something massive would have to change in hardware land. Likewise for the display. A quality external flatscreen monitor puts to shame any laptop screen I've seen.
However, if you don't need graphics capabilities, then the laptop can be your number crunching machine of choice. I develop exclusively on a laptop at home. Works fine.
For most folk, they can get by with smartphones and tablets because 95% of what they do is browse the web.
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Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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Leisher
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Posted on: Apr. 25 2013,07:54 |
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QUOTE I think it'll be awhile before they change their "no tablets" policy.
Tell them to get a Surface. It'll change immediately.
I really can't stress enough that this thing is a PC wearing a tablet coat.
It's a fully functional PC.
QUOTE But I can't take a desktop anywhere. I can't take it to meetings, or to clients, or on planes, or anywhere. It's stuck in one place. That makes it nearly worthless to me.
Actually, that makes you the dinosaur 
I feel like I work for Microsoft, but I'm telling you, this Surface, and all the copy cats it has inspired is the new mobile computer. Laptops are on the way out.
Who wants to carry around such a heavy, bulky machine when there's a fully functional PC that's smaller, lighter, and costs less?
Meanwhile, the desktop won't be going anywhere soon. Do NOT discount the power of gamers. They drive the market, and they aren't going to want to trade power for mobility. Most of them have rooms specifically for gaming.
Beyond gamers, you've got all the video processing software, imaging, CAD shit, etc. that will require desktops due to their power.
There is no replacement for desktops (yet). There is a replacement for heavy, bulky, expensive laptops...
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TheCatt
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Posted on: Apr. 25 2013,08:43 |
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Surface is BARELY functional for development.
There is no replacement for a dev laptop workstation.
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