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TheCatt 
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Posted on: Jun. 10 2011,09:53 |
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I predict a bunch of kids going "oh crap, they really will catch us"
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GORDON
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Posted on: Jun. 10 2011,10:30 |
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You think kids have awareness that their actions have consequences, especially "hacker" kids "behind 7 different proxies?"
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TheCatt
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Posted on: Jun. 10 2011,11:55 |
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Once they see people they know getting busted, yes.
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GORDON
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Posted on: Jun. 10 2011,12:46 |
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Perhaps.
I just don't think this is the last we'll be hearing of Anonymous.
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Jun. 10 2011,17:11 |
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It'll weed out the idiots, which is usually good for any organization.
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"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
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TPRJones
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Posted on: Jun. 10 2011,19:52 |
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Trying to get rid of Anonymous will be about as effective as trying to stop piracy. Some people will go to jail. Some will get away. Either way there will be more taking their place.
It's become more of an idea than an organization.
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Jun. 11 2011,10:07 |
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And the gov't is still way behind the private sector in terms of sheer programming/hacking chops.
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Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Jun. 11 2011,13:35 |
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I'm sure Turkish cyber security is top notch.
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"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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GORDON
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Posted on: Jun. 11 2011,13:37 |
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I was surprised to hear they even had web sites.
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TheCatt
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Posted on: Jun. 11 2011,17:18 |
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Anonymous is sure getting a lot of press the past year.
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GORDON
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Posted on: Jun. 11 2011,19:25 |
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Anonymous thumbs nose at NATO.
http://techland.time.com/2011....r-world
QUOTE "We do not wish to threaten anybody's way of life. We do not wish to dictate anything to anybody. We do not wish to terrorize any nation.
We merely wish to remove power from vested interests and return it to the people - who, in a democracy, it should never have been taken from in the first place.
The government makes the law. This does not give them the right to break it. If the government was doing nothing underhand or illegal, there would be nothing 'embarassing' [sic] about Wikileaks revelations, nor would there have been any scandal emanating from HBGary. The resulting scandals were not a result of Anonymous' or Wikileaks' revelations, they were the result of the CONTENT of those revelations. And responsibility for that content can be laid solely at the doorstep of policymakers who, like any corrupt entity, naively believed that they were above the law and that they would not be caught.
A lot of government and corporate comment has been dedicated to 'how we can avoid a similar leak in the future'. Such advice ranges from better security, to lower levels of clearance, from harsher penalties for whistleblowers, to censorship of the press.
Our message is simple: Do not lie to the people and you won't have to worry about your lies being exposed. Do not make corrupt deals and you won't have to worry about your corruption being laid bare. Do not break the rules and you won't have to worry about getting in trouble for it."
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"do not make the mistake of challenging Anonymous. Do not make the mistake of believing you can behead a headless snake. If you slice off one head of Hydra, ten more heads will grow in its place. If you cut down one Anon, ten more will join us purely out of anger at your trampling of dissent."
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TPRJones
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Posted on: Jun. 11 2011,20:47 |
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There is no PR Department. It's just whoever decided to type that and send it to someone.
Anonymous is not an organization in any sense of the word. It's a mob, very literally. It is composed of whomever decides to call themselves that at a given moment. Just like any mob, there are some in it that are focused on a goal or more active than others, and some that can convince other parts of the mob to do something in particular. But that's about it.
It's very democratic that way.
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Jun. 11 2011,22:24 |
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(TPRJones @ Jun. 11 2011,22:47)
QUOTE There is no PR Department. Â It's just whoever decided to type that and send it to someone.
Anonymous is not an organization in any sense of the word. Â It's a mob, very literally. Â It is composed of whomever decides to call themselves that at a given moment. Â Just like any mob, there are some in it that are focused on a goal or more active than others, and some that can convince other parts of the mob to do something in particular. Â But that's about it.
It's very democratic that way.
Schizophrenic, too. They may as well change their name to "angsty hackers anonymous" now.
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"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
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"Better dead than smeg."
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TheCatt
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Posted on: Jun. 16 2011,06:49 |
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Anonymous vs themselves
Yeah, that sounds about right.
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TPRJones
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Posted on: Jun. 16 2011,11:14 |
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Bah! Lulzsec is not Anonymous, they're just a bunch of mindless script kiddies that couldn't do anything without their little "hacking" utilities their big brother made for them so they could pretend to play bigboy games.
Screw Lulzsec. They're morons and will absolutely get themselves caught. Too bad they're all way too young to be tried as adults.
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Jun. 16 2011,14:26 |
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QUOTE Yesterday, Lulzsec engaged in a spree of hack attacks against gaming and gamers: They downed The Escapist magazine because some commenters said mean stuff about them, then took the games Eve Online, Minecraft and League of Legends—all 4chan favorites—offline. Lulzsec has demonstrated a strange fixation on hacking video game companies, hacking Sony repeatedly. And when they hit the game studio Bethesda, they gave it top billing over their "bonus" hacking of the U.S. Senate's website.
Enjoy these times, boys and girls. Before shit like this gets used as an excuse to clamp down on cyberspace.
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Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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TPRJones
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Posted on: Jun. 16 2011,14:46 |
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You can't clamp down on cyberspace. You can try, but it will fail.
The only way to effectively limit the internet is to take it down entirely. Which is unlikely to happen. And even if it does, then people will just set up ad-hoc networks and recreate the internet in an inefficient but nonetheless effective manner.
It's one of those sorts of technologies that, once discovered, cannot be contained. Not without using wide-scale destruction to accomplish the job.
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