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Leisher 
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Posted on: Dec. 15 2010,12:23 |
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Sounds like it to me.
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GORDON
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Posted on: Dec. 15 2010,13:18 |
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I've read that feet are often severed in plane crashes, and crashes at sea have feet washing up on shore... but I haven't heard of any plane crashes, lately.
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Leisher
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Posted on: Dec. 15 2010,13:43 |
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If you read the whole article this has been going on for a while now. Lots more washing up in Canada.
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Dec. 15 2010,17:35 |
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It reminds of the scene from "Home Alone"
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"And thanks to the kitchen sinks you plugged up, we know all the houses you robbed."
It's like asking to be caught.
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Leisher
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Posted on: Dec. 15 2010,20:42 |
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That's what they do though. Trophies and MO rarely deviate for most serial killers.
Why? I don't know. I've seen people say they want to get caught. I've seen others claim they do it because they don't think they'll ever be caught.
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Dec. 15 2010,23:40 |
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Maybe they're not quite as bright as they think/want to be. Maybe they're reckless. Maybe they're just fucked in the head.
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"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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Leisher
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2010,06:23 |
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QUOTE Maybe they're not quite as bright as they think/want to be.
No, they're smart. Not all, of course, but generally speaking serial killers are smart people.
QUOTE Maybe they're just fucked in the head.
That's obvious.
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DoctorChaos
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2010,06:29 |
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It's a compulsion. They really can't help it. Almost like ocd.
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2010,09:15 |
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QUOTE No, they're smart. Not all, of course, but generally speaking serial killers are smart people.
Eh, they're smarter than 90% of the population, usually given lots of planning time and the element of surprise. That still leaves lots of room to get busted by people with enough information and resources.
QUOTE It's a compulsion. They really can't help it.
Hence why they get caught. Jack the Ripper's ass would've been arrested today.
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"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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Leisher
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2010,12:34 |
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QUOTE Jack the Ripper's ass would've been arrested today.
Not necessarily. Him with his MO? Probably. A simple stakeout would have caught him.
However, there are serial killers around the world active right now that haven't been caught. More then you would think too.
Will they be caught? Who knows. Most will, but there are serial killers who get away with it. The Phantom Killer and the Zodiac Killer are probably two of the most famous examples.
They're very difficult to catch due to the lack of motive. Think about it, take a large group of people and put them into a community. Insert a murder. You know who was killed, but how do you find the killer unless you know the "Why"?
Their MO is the key. As Chaos points out, its a compulsion. That MO or ritual usually leads to their capture based on time, dates, victim type, locations, equipment used, etc. Something is broken down into a traceable pattern.
However, what if you had a serial killer with a changing MO? Now you not only don't know why someone was killed, but you might not realize their death is related to numerous others.
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2010,13:00 |
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QUOTE However, what if you had a serial killer with a changing MO? Now you not only don't know why someone was killed, but you might not realize their death is related to numerous others.
People who change their MO are killing for practical purposes, normally. The OCDness is what separates true psychos from professionals. If you're killing people and leaving a calling card, on some level, you want notoriety. People with that kind of ego typically can't stand working completely anonymously, which leads to them fucking up.
QUOTE Most will, but there are serial killers who get away with it. The Phantom Killer and the Zodiac Killer are probably two of the most famous examples.
Yeah, from fifty years plus way back when. Criminology and forensics have taken several quantum leaps forwards since then.
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Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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Leisher
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2010,13:40 |
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The question about the serial killer with no MO was a theoretical. There's never been such a beast.
QUOTE Yeah, from fifty years plus way back when. Criminology and forensics have taken several quantum leaps forwards since then.
First, CSI isn't real. I KNOW you know that, but I'm pointing it out for anyone else reading this thread. The technology they use doesn't work that fast, that accurately, and some of it is theory.
Second, don't assume that just because the technology is there to help identify what a fiber is that it'll lead them to where it was bought, who bought it, why the person was killed, etc. The investigators still need to build the crime scene and find those clues to be examined. They also need a logical link leading them from evidence to certain tests and then to the next thing, whether it be another clue or a suspect.
Third, and this might be the most important piece, these tests aren't free. Yes, that fact hinders investigations.
Now granted, sometimes they might stumble upon a budding serial killer and get lucky like that Dutch Kid and the Craigslist guy, but they aren't 100% sure they got them after their first kill. Also, how many women did that guy in Cleveland kill before he was caught earlier this year?
Keep in mind that a lot of times there's no evidence of a crime, just a missing person. What do you use forensics on there? Point being is that until Tom Cruise hunts us down before we even plan the crime there will be people out there getting away with murder.
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2010,15:01 |
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Is Wolverine a serial killer, or mass murderer?
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TPRJones
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2010,15:49 |
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Mass murderer, to qualify as a serial killer he'd have to be more subtle and secret and (usually) work alone.
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DoctorChaos
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2010,07:50 |
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It's simpler than that. There has to be opportunity. For instance, there is a high statistical correlation with serial killers hunting within their own ethnicity. Why? Because a white guy in a predominantly black neighborhood sticks out like a sore thumb. And while we are on statistics, given a growing number of victims, a pattern has to emerge, as unk pointed out. I would think behavior would give away even the most random and careful killer.
I read a book by the guy that invented profiling and it is really fascinating what they can predict. In the Atlanta child murders, he had the make and color of the killer's car picked out correctly.
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